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CIA crucified Abu Ghraib prisoner
Monday, 29 June 2009
The Central Intelligence Agency crucified a prisoner in Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad, according to a report published in The New Yorker magazine.
“A forensic examiner found that he (the prisoner) had essentially been crucified; he died from asphyxiation after having been hung by his arms, in a hood, and suffering broken ribs,” the magazine’s Jane Mayer writes in the magazine’s June 22nd issue. “Military pathologists classified the case a homicide.” The date of the murder was not given.
“No criminal charges have ever been brought against any C.I.A. officer involved in the torture program, despite the fact that at least three prisoners interrogated by agency personnel died as a result of mistreatment,” Mayer notes.
An earlier report, by John Hendren in The Los Angeles Times indicted other torture killings. And Human Rights First says nearly 100 detainees have died in U.S. custody in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hendren reported that one Manadel Jamadi died “of blunt-force injuries” complicated by “compromised respiration” at Abu Ghraib prison “while he was with Navy SEALs and other special operations troops.” Another victim, Abdul Jaleel, died while gagged and shackled to a cell door with his hands over his head.” Yet another prisoner, Maj. Gen. Abid Mowhosh, former commander of Iraq’s air defenses, “died of asphyxiation due to smothering and chest compression” in Qaim, Iraq.
"There is no question that U.S. interrogations have resulted in deaths," says Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU. "High-ranking officials who knew about the torture and sat on their hands and those who created and endorsed these policies must be held accountable. America must stop putting its head in the sand and deal with the torture scandal." At least scores of detainees in U.S. custody have died and homicide is suspected. As far back as May, 2004, the Pentagon conceded at least 37 deaths of prisoners in its custody in Iraq and Afghanistan had prompted investigations.
Nathaniel Raymond, of Physicians for Human Rights, told The New Yorker, “We still don’t know how many detainees were in the black sites, or who they were. We don’t fully know the White House’s role, or the C.I.A.’s role. We need a full accounting, especially as it relates to health professionals.”
Recently released Justice memos, he noted, contain numerous references to CIA medical personnel participating in coercive interrogation sessions. “They were the designers, the legitimizers, and the implementers,” Raymond said. “This is arguably the single greatest medical-ethics scandal in American history. We need answers.”
The ACLU obtained its information from the Pentagon through a Freedom of Information suit. Documents received included 44 autopsies and death reports as well as a summary of autopsy reports of people seized in Iraq and Afghanistan. An ACLU statement noted, “This covers just a fraction of the total number of Iraqis and Afghanis who have died while in U.S. custody.” (Italics added).
Torture by the CIA has been facilitated by the Agency’s ability to hide prisoners in “black sites” kept secret from the Red Cross, to hold prisoners off the books, and to detain them for years without bringing charges or providing them with lawyers.
Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, denounced the Obama administration for considering “prevention detention,” The New Yorker’s Mayer wrote. Roth said this tactic “mimics the Bush Administration’s abusive approach.”
From all indications, CIA Director Panetta has no intention of bringing to justice CIA officials involved in the systematic torture of prisoners. Panetta told Mayer, “I’m going to give people the benefit of the doubt…If they do the job that they’re paid to do, I can’t ask for a hell of a lot more.”
Such sentiments differ markedly from those Panetta wrote in an article published last year in the January Washington Monthly: “We either believe in the dignity of the individual, the rule of law, and the prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, or we don’t. There is no middle ground.”
One way to discern who really runs a country is to look to see which individuals, if any, are above the law. In the Obama administration, like its predecessors, they include the employees of the CIA. Crucifixions they execute in the Middle East differ from those reported in the New Testament in at least one important respect: Jesus Christ had a trial.
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7318/53/
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good. we need to do more of this.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! - Barry Goldwater
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The Koran supports an eye for an eye, how is my denying them justice (by their laws and customs) being unjust?
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! - Barry Goldwater
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same site that brings us this..
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7331/53/
maybe the TV show Lost has influenced the Kremlin....and the site
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Shameless (6/30/2009)
same site that brings us this..
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/7331/53/
maybe the TV show Lost has influenced the Kremlin....and the site
Do you have an actual point?
Did you even bother reading the post?
Or did you just conveniently skip the entire first part, including the quotes from the original article and giving attribution to the New Yorker?
Here's a little more, with the quoted part from the New Yorker included:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/22/090622fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all
No criminal charges have ever been brought against any C.I.A. officer involved in the torture program, despite the fact that at least three prisoners interrogated by agency personnel died as the result of mistreatment. In the first case, an unnamed detainee under C.I.A. supervision in Afghanistan froze to death after having been chained, naked, to a concrete floor overnight. The body was buried in an unmarked grave. In the second case, an Iraqi prisoner named Manadel al-Jamadi died on November 4, 2003, while being interrogated by the C.I.A. at Abu Ghraib prison, outside Baghdad. A forensic examiner found that he had essentially been crucified; he died from asphyxiation after having been hung by his arms, in a hood, and suffering broken ribs. Military pathologists classified the case a homicide. A third prisoner died after an interrogation in which a C.I.A. officer participated, though the officer evidently did not cause the death. (Several other detainees have disappeared and remain unaccounted for, according to Human Rights Watch.)
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| No I read the article..but I also look at the home pages of places that are quoted in here because in most cases they are from sources that are definitely slanted one way or the other. I just got a chuckle out of the *Magnetic Kremlin* story. If that somehow hurt your feelings, well sorry. If you do enough googling, you can find what writings/beliefs you want to find. In the case of these particular prisoners, I would agree that charges have should have been filed and followed through with, just like a beating that takes place everyday on our streets every single day..I am not giving the CIA free pass here, but they are not and will not be very transparent.
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Hon, please take this in the spirit in which it's intended - you can't hurt my feelings, because I don't know you and you don't know me. Only someone I care about can hurt my feelings.
I just wondered if you were saying it didn't happen, just because it was quoted in at a website of which you disapprove, without considering that the source THEY were quoting....or if you had some other point in mind.
And btw, equating the CIA treatment of prisoners taken and tortured to death in the name of the US government with common, violent criminals on our streets beating up people - well, sure, it's hard to tell the difference sometimes, but you have to remember - we are SUPPOSED to be the GOOD guys, with the LAW on our side.
(Yeah, I know - and you think it's bad now, wait until the IG torture report is finally released...)
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nope..I just don't put as much thought (CIA activities..past and present) into it as you apparently do...I am much more concerned about the flailing economy than something that happened in 2003...and before you get defensive again..yes the economy will turn around. It always has and always will...it is cylic. I will just stay out of the torture threads...
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Oooookaaay...so you cared enough to read on a thread about torture and murder, and to post a link to something totally unrelated, but now you're saying you believe crimes of torture and murder shouldn't concern us because there are more pressing matters at hand.
Okay, got it.
No worries. We've got this one.
Fahgettaboutit!
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| wow..had to even come back to add more..and here I was hoping you weren't going to get defensive..*l...you're twisting words. I said *I*...you may post and do as you please.
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