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Posted 3/25/2010 6:38:41 PM
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AnalogKid

I cant really take credit for it

it was something I saw on an episode of "Psych"

Shawn sent Gus in to a tanning salon, it was hysterical....




Kasteele

you disagree with the fact that both systems end up with some people dying sooner and some dying later...?

I dont see how you can dispute it....
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Posted 3/25/2010 8:39:59 PM
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Barry (3/25/2010)



Kasteele

you disagree with the fact that both systems end up with some people dying sooner and some dying later...?

I dont see how you can dispute it....


I can see why you don't see my point. My point stated clearly is that with the new system, many people will live longer because they can be treated. Everyone dies, some just did not need to die as soon as they did, now they don't have to. I also understand your points, if you live in an emotionless world where people outside of your little circle do not matter, but that world, does not exist.

If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance......
Orville Wright
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Posted 3/26/2010 2:54:14 AM
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where people outside of your little circle do not matter


if you actually believe this, then why dont you guarantee and pay for the healthcare of every person on the face of the planet...

or do the people outside of your little circle of canada not matter...

morally, I am no more responsible for paying for the healthcare of someone in kansas, than I am for paying for it for someone in japan...

its simply not my responsibility, each person is responsible for his or her own healthcare.....







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Posted 3/26/2010 12:49:09 PM
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Barry (3/26/2010)
where people outside of your little circle do not matter


if you actually believe this, then why dont you guarantee and pay for the healthcare of every person on the face of the planet...

or do the people outside of your little circle of canada not matter...

morally, I am no more responsible for paying for the healthcare of someone in kansas, than I am for paying for it for someone in japan...

its simply not my responsibility, each person is responsible for his or her own healthcare.....









frankly, I do believe health care should be a universal human right, so we sure do think differently on this.

If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance......
Orville Wright
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Posted 3/26/2010 6:22:55 PM
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Health care as a Universal human right?

Seems to me people need to have the freedom to fail.
otherwise success loses all meaning.

Health care shouldn't be a universal right.
it should be earned, not given.
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Posted 3/26/2010 6:39:09 PM
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Kasteele


how come only some people are morally obligated to provide for healthcare

while others receive the healthcare but have no moral obligation to provide anything to anyone.....

when you labeled it "all for one and one for all" you labeled it incorrectly

your system is actually "some for all and some for none" where some pay for all, and some pay for none..........




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Posted 3/26/2010 11:49:37 PM
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Barry, you are placing blame and making excuses. Neither of which make the world a better place to live. With you, "it SEEMS, it is survival of the richest and the hell with everyone else. In my world, it is survival of our race, nothing less.

If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance......
Orville Wright
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