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kasteele, yes I would be surprised.
KetrelBrighteyes, you take care of it it then.
RecycledPorker, some people have cows. We are in agreement that faith based initiatives are a bad idea.
Rawhide, I will rail against churches taking tax dollars.
Did I miss anyone?...
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bree
very good girl!
I will join you, as soon as you ans, never mind!
take care and gone
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Final verdict from the courts of the Acorn bill of attainder
"The withholding of appropriations, however, does not constitute a traditional form of punishment that is "considered to be punitive per se." Congress's decision to withhold funds from ACORN and its affiliates constitutes neither imprisonment, banishment, nor death. The withholding of funds may arguably constitute a punitive confiscation of property at some point, but the plaintiffs do not assert that they have property rights to federal funds that have yet to be disbursed at the agency's discretion. We note, further, that "There may well be actions that would be considered punitive if taken against an individual, but not if taken against a corporation." In comparison to penalties levied against individuals, a temporary disqualification from funds or deprivation of property aimed at a corporation may be more an inconvenience than punishment. While ACORN claims that it will be "driven close to bankruptcy" and may suffer a "corporate death sentence" without federal funds, the Harshbarger Report reveals that ACORN only derives 10% of its funding from federal grants. Thus, we doubt that the direct consequences of the appropriations laws temporarily precluding ACORN from federal funds are "so disproportionately severe" or "so inappropriate" as to constitute punishment per se.("Forbidden legislative punishment is not involved merely because the Act imposes burdensome consequences.").
As asserted by the plaintiffs, the appropriations laws "attaint ACORN with a note of infamy… and encourage others to shun ACORN." But the plaintiffs are not prohibited from any activities; they are only prohibited from receiving federal funds to continue their activities. Although the appropriations laws may have the effect of alienating ACORN and its affiliates from their supporters, Congress must have the authority to suspend federal funds to an organization that has admitted to significant mismanagement. The exercise of Congress's spending powers in this way is not "so disproportionately severe and so inappropriate to nonpunitive ends" as to invalidate the resulting legislation as a bill of attainder."
Your predictions were wrong on the bill of attainder, KBE. -l- You'll have to fund it all on your own. Why are you trying to force others to fund it for you & against funding it yourself?
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acorn was vindicated by pleading guilty to illegally compensating its employees for fraudulently registering voters...
thats right, not just individual employees....but obamas entire front group organization was found to be criminal....
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